If Steve is right, I think there is no hope, Gastro. I don't think I'll ever get to Panama (nor Alaska, for that matter). I think we should really stop this because we're boring everyone else stiff. You've got your views, I've got mine - we both like John and appreciate his contribution to music - I like "Papa Macca", as you called him, otherwise I wouldn't waste my time here, you don't but still choose to waste your time here, and each of us is entitled to their opinion, aren't we? So let's just call it a day, shall we? As 'nito says - PEACE.