Live in NYC Album

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Live in NYC Album

Postby cleptosid » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:52 pm

I love John but this this album truly suc*s. I was lucky enough to have been there in Aug of 72 (an early B-day present) And I thought it was like being in heaven at the time seeing my third Beatle preform. I saw George and Ringo the previous year at the Bangla desh show.

I was doing a Lennon musical marathon all day today and I played the Live in NYC album and I sat there and was truly amazed at how poor this show was. John's vocals were terrible, Elephants Memory was an awful band and as usual John could not remember half of his own words. Why was this ever released? It is of bootleg quality at best. I just thank god that Yoko's contributions were left off the album (her songs are on the VHS tape). All in all I never thought of John as a good live performer.
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Re: Live in NYC Album

Postby EddieV » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:46 am

cleptosid wrote:I love John but this this album truly suc*s. I was lucky enough to have been there in Aug of 72 (an early B-day present) And I thought it was like being in heaven at the time seeing my third Beatle preform. I saw George and Ringo the previous year at the Bangla desh show.

I was doing a Lennon musical marathon all day today and I played the Live in NYC album and I sat there and was truly amazed at how poor this show was. John's vocals were terrible, Elephants Memory was an awful band and as usual John could not remember half of his own words. Why was this ever released? It is of bootleg quality at best. I just thank god that Yoko's contributions were left off the album (her songs are on the VHS tape). All in all I never thought of John as a good live performer.


I think he was very nervous and insecure when performing live!!
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Re: Live in NYC Album

Postby linclink » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:28 am

I think Lennon's "Live Peace in Toronto" is about as great a live album as has ever been released. I also think that The Beatles Rooftop Concert from Let it Be is the greatest live album never released. Hey, The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl is pretty darn terrific as well. So I certainly don't buy that Lennon had any limitations as a live performer, other than he was sick of it, due to the whole Beatlemania experience, and years of live shows and touring, both before & after fame. He had lots of interests, artistically & personally, and touring was a huge undertaking. He was very close in '72 when the Nixon trolls, and the darkest aspects of the U.S. Govt. at the time helped to quell that. He played all over the place live in '71-'72, including the two full length live performances that comprise the Live in NYC album. And, better yet, and saddest of all, he was planning a 1981 World Tour alongside the upcoming release of Milk & Honey. The band was rehearsing, set lists were being tinkered with, Lennon had done unique stage designs, and plans for events and content of the show (beyond just the songs) were well underway as well. It was to begin in the U.S., go to Europe & Japan, and then end with a second and final leg in the U.S. that would culminate in NYC.
Live in NYC has some truly great moments...it was also quickly rehearsed, with a backup band that I would say is very good, but not great. The problem here is the mix. Which is abysmal. I've heard great bootleg material form the show, and the tracks from those shows on the Lennon Anthology are far superior.
Remember there were two shows, an evening, and an afternoon show. I've read lots of places that the show Yoko released, for whatever reasons, was the afternoon show. This had poorer sound, and a weaker performance. They worked out the bugs in the mix, and had both a looser (less nervous) and tighter (more together) show that evening. I should stress that besides the actual mix at the show, the mix done by whoever produced this originally is really poor. The later mixes on Anthology are far superior. Check out the two versions of Come Together...me thinks that It's So Hard is another...can't recall for certain. Blessings!
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Re: Live in NYC Album

Postby Genuine_Indian_Guru » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:40 am

I like the album myself.
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Re: Live in NYC Album

Postby linclink » Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:01 pm

I like it alot too. There are some better or worse performances, and my hope is that someday we'll get at least a remixed album, or better yet, a CD of the complete evening show...maybe a double CD of both shows? Blessings!
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Re: Live in NYC Album

Postby EddieV » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:21 am

It is pretty good I think.
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