i don't think i claimed to be a vegetarian...ever: i like my steak medium, thank you. i've got no problem with farmers and their way of life, which includes those who raise cattle, chickens, fish,etc, that ARE going to be culled/sold/bartered for profit. but, in the real world, where most of us live, we do have laws about the cruel disposal of animals...something you seem to have missed, but, hey, since you're into the wearing-of-the-blinder style of investigation...go for it.
if anyone is misinformed again, it is you, mr s.
i don't buy into everything paul has to say on any and every issue: i, too, spend as much time as i can looking into and reading about issues...and quite frankly, some of the absolutely insipid arguments being made by the club-the-critter side borders on ridiculous.
if, in the 1930's, the dust bowl comes to ks and the farmer can't farm...he moves to california and becomes a movie maker. if all the nice americans decide to but gas sipping japanese imports and the gas guzzling american car makers have to close plants...then the atuo worker goes and gets a job at microsoft.
if the inteligent people of the world say, gee, clubbing a defenseless animal just to get it's pelt for some fur coat...you ought to either, A: be man enough to say you're too stupid to get a new line of work and be proud of it...or, B: get a new line of work !
but don't tell me you gotta eat their scrawny flesh and a half a million other loads of crap to try and make your abysmal line of thinking more sane...it's not.
and NOWHERE did i tell you you could not share your point of view...quite frankly, you must be spending too much time on the tundra to not figure out i don't run this place, it's a guy named mike.
as to heather, i quite frankly could give a rats asp on what you thought of her..its got nothing to do with the issue, you only proved my point, you're not here trying defend your sadistic crap, you're hear to bash...and since you can't survive long in this wilderness bashing paul...you'll go after heather. from what i've seen and read...the give and take was spirited and fully with keeping with the rather modern tradition of talk shows where issues are discussed...in other words, just 'cause you're there doesn't mean you own the podium...you gotta be prepared to put up an honest intelligent defense..and if little old heather mccartneybeat the guy at this very real, political sport...then so be it...no use crying over spilt milk...obviously, she was more prepared to air her views and assert her opnions than he was.
if i see my neighbor clubbing his dog to death, i'm likely as not to try and stop him...especially if i know the dog is a nice one, than to politely stand aside and ask questions.
if you were at all intelligent, and actually read my last post, you would have seen that i was offering a manner to discuss the issue, within a more proper framework, that, in fact, there could be a very good argument to be made...but, it seems that's not quite your forte....
i'm glad you thought mr williams had the winning point of view, since every one else seems to disagree with you, i'll just let it stand at that....15 or 20 to 1 is pretty good odds for me. it really only shows your predilection for NOT paying attention.
in short, ( yea, like this is !) if you can't defend your point by DEFENDING IT...not bashing others...then you've already lost that PR game...and that does not bode well for this industry.
you, and others, had the opportunity to convince some around the world that you have a legitimate reason to perform these tasks in this manner...you could've got away with a winning hand, PR-wise..instead, you're spending all your time arguing semantics...get over it.