Laurence Juber Makes Case For Wings in the Hall of Fame

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Re: Laurence Juber Makes Case For Wings in the Hall of Fame

Postby mr h atom » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:12 am

i somewhat agree, rick, however...

denny, linda and paul, the core of wings, were on 7 succesful albums, where they shared a wide variety of important artistic roles...and the various other members were not hacks and added much more than just backing to each outing...which is what juber was getting at

wings was created, presented and worked hard at to be a significant, separate entity...a band.
amd, as a band, they were highly successful and influential.

not a narketimg ploy filled with nameless passerbys who lacked talent and vision..who had zero impact upon the sound and trajectory of the band.

in no way can that achievement be compared to what is clearly, with the current, astonishingly excellant line-up, just a back-up band, which, other than for touring, has been sparingly used
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Re: Laurence Juber Makes Case For Wings in the Hall of Fame

Postby james1985 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:05 pm

I will say this:

The McCartney/Laine/McCartney vocal sound is distinctive, it's the thread that ties Wings from Rude Studios to being busted in Japan and everything in between. The sound of Linda and Denny's backing vocals is the Wings sound for me. It's there on Tomorrow on WL, it's there on When The Night, it's there on Bluebird.....you get where I'm going. It's the constant.

It's not the same on Ram (too Linda-heavy to be Wings), or McCartney II/Tug of War. The three of them are the core, and there was a core sound that carried on from album to album, lineup to lineup.

And given the shit-ton of records they sold, they should be in the Hall of Fame.

But does anyone outside Rolling Stone magazine actually care about the HoF?
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Re: Laurence Juber Makes Case For Wings in the Hall of Fame

Postby Lazarus_2 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:58 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wings_%28band%29

see the timeline for band-members stints with Wings.

Only McCartney-McCartney-Laine are constant, the most any other member was in Wings was for a 1/3 of the time.

And seeing how Wings was 80% or more Paul McCartney, I don't really see how anybody would consider Wings as a separate entity from just McCartney.
McCartney himself doesn't even see a distinction between himself and Wings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQNYDUnFBts&feature=related
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Re: Laurence Juber Makes Case For Wings in the Hall of Fame

Postby mr h atom » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:33 am

yeah...but he married heather mills, so what does he know ! :wink:
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Re: Laurence Juber Makes Case For Wings in the Hall of Fame

Postby Awesoman » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:43 am

mr h atom wrote:
denny, linda and paul, the core of wings, were on 7 succesful albums, where they shared a wide variety of important artistic roles...


Such as...?

mr h atom wrote:and the various other members were not hacks and added much more than just backing to each outing...which is what juber was getting at


Examples...?

james1985 wrote:The McCartney/Laine/McCartney vocal sound is distinctive, it's the thread that ties Wings from Rude Studios to being busted in Japan and everything in between. The sound of Linda and Denny's backing vocals is the Wings sound for me. It's there on Tomorrow on WL, it's there on When The Night, it's there on Bluebird.....you get where I'm going. It's the constant.


Crosby, Stills & Nash had a distinctive vocal blend. Simon & Garfunkel had a distinctive vocal blend. The Beach Boys had a distinctive vocal blend. Wings? Not so much. Even if they did, it would hardly be enough to differentiate between Wings and Paul "solo". Even Linda sang harmony on everything Paul did up until her death. Paul would have still had the same success with the music he performed with Wings had he not named the band and called it a solo career. As someone has already mentioned, even Paul himself doesn't seem to differentiate what he did with Wings to that of his solo career. The Wings' Greatest and Wingspan compilations: all Paul songs, and includes a couple of Paul songs he didn't record with the band. If Wings was such a group effort, why weren't songs like "Medicine Jar" included in these compilations?
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Re: Laurence Juber Makes Case For Wings in the Hall of Fame

Postby james1985 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:41 am

Awesoman wrote:
Crosby, Stills & Nash had a distinctive vocal blend. Simon & Garfunkel had a distinctive vocal blend. The Beach Boys had a distinctive vocal blend. Wings? Not so much. Even if they did, it would hardly be enough to differentiate between Wings and Paul "solo".


If you can't tell that Magneteo, Call Me Back Again, London Town, Love Awake have a common sound that's not on FITD or TOW or FP, then you just can't tell, sorry man.
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Re: Laurence Juber Makes Case For Wings in the Hall of Fame

Postby Awesoman » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:09 am

james1985 wrote:
Awesoman wrote:
Crosby, Stills & Nash had a distinctive vocal blend. Simon & Garfunkel had a distinctive vocal blend. The Beach Boys had a distinctive vocal blend. Wings? Not so much. Even if they did, it would hardly be enough to differentiate between Wings and Paul "solo".


If you can't tell that Magneteo, Call Me Back Again, London Town, Love Awake have a common sound that's not on FITD or TOW or FP, then you just can't tell, sorry man.



Which is exactly why Wings doesn't need its own slot in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
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Re: Laurence Juber Makes Case For Wings in the Hall of Fame

Postby mr h atom » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:44 am

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Re: Laurence Juber Makes Case For Wings in the Hall of Fame

Postby RickStark79 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:56 pm

mr h atom wrote::-@


Informative Mr. H, thanks! :roll:
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Re: Laurence Juber Makes Case For Wings in the Hall of Fame

Postby Awesoman » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:10 pm

RickStark79 wrote:
mr h atom wrote::-@


Informative Mr. H, thanks! :roll:


That's just mr h atom's way of saying he's wrong. :santa
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