Right, Steve. Len, I serioulsy wish you didn't go. Listen man, we're having a heated debate. Nobody's saying they hate you or Brains. If something is gonna be posted about the worst terrorist attack in our nation's history, we're gonna (and should) respond. And when you talk about "revenge", nobody here said that. We have to respond to the Taliban/Al Qaeda to take out their evil, so they will not strike anymore. We've already had other threats against our safety from them. Not just us, but other places in the world as well. It's great to think as a pacifist and be nonviolent, man. Man, I SO DEEPLY WISH matters could be solved like that. But we have to be realistic. This is the 21st century. Heck, forget the 21st century, wackos like these have been spreading their evil FOREVER. Just look at the Nazis. You CANNOT peacefully deal with these people, man. That's just the REALITY of it. We can't just have almost 3,000 of our innocent people killed, who were minding their own business one morning, and just say "Oh well. It's a shame, but we don't want anymore bloodshed, so we'll let the Taliban off the hook." Dude, that's living in a fairytale. If we and our allies are gonna defeat this evil, we HAVE to go to war. There's no way around it. Bin Laden and his cohorts aren't gonna discuss this over tea and crumpets. Like Steve said, sometimes you have to "walk a mile" in someone elses shoes. May God always bless you and your family, Len. But, if one day your mother or your brother's head was blown off on their way to work one morning, I think maybe you'd let go of some of those pacifist beliefs. Many things can be solved in this world peacefully, man. International terrorism is not one of them. In order to reach a goal of peace in the world, lives are gonna be lost eventually. It's the ultimate price to pay, but it's just a reality.